shirogiku:

dreamingpagan:

shirogiku:

candlewinds:

One gets used to a state of affairs for such a long time, it’s easy to forget that they’re all just transitions. Specks of dust suspended in the air until a strong enough gust comes along and rearranges everything. A strong gust has come to this place. The men can feel it. Know it will upset everything they thought they understood just a few days ago. They’ll need to lean on something solid…They’ll look to me for that.

#this scene fucking kills me#because Flint is hurting here#he’s hurting so bad#but he’s got Silver#and then the lie#and suddenly he’s really truly alone#and he knows it#that’s why I’m firmly in the he knew camp when it comes to Silver’s lies#because you can see the mask crack when he says I’m having a hard time#he’s not ok but he’s pretending so hard for Silver’s sake#and then Silver lies to him and he loses his give a fuck entirely because why the fuck should he try for someone who’s only going to lie?#black sails

I really like this one meta that’s Camp Nope, but I also have a good 4th wall breaking excuse to cop out of picking a camp. As of s3, to me, Nope makes more sense in terms of their relationship progression – Nope makes the shark hunting reveal really great and exciting IMHO. BUT I get the feeling that they haven’t written it yet as of s2, so maybe they were considering another angle, and that’s why the s2 scene is played as He Knows.

I can see the argument for either, tbh, but the way that I read it is that Silver makes progress in that boat alright, but not because of the reason that he thinks he does. He’s misreading Flint here still. He thinks he’s forcing Flint to account for him as someone as intelligent as he is, when in fact he’s finally stopped bullshitting him and gotten his respect back because he’s stopped lying to him. I read Flint as being so very tired of lies in Season 3. He’s been lied to by just about everyone, and he’s sick to death of it, so when Silver lies at the end of Season 2, it causes complete and utter shut down. It’s less about, “you’re not smart enough for me to trust you/talk to you as an equal” and more, “stop fucking lying I can’t take any more lies.” He’s tired of being manipulated, plain and simple.

oh, I like this take!

but lol Flint, you hypocrite XD he himself lies to everyone and uses manipulation whenever he needs to. Ok, it’s not the same, bc he didn’t lie to Miranda (or ever try to manipulate her), bc she was the one who was that high in the status, but he lied to Silver/manipulated Silver all through s1/2.

but he still says in my head, you’re not welcome. so it’s like he has no energy to steer Silver along but Silver is still doing the old lie/manipulate dance. and yes, flint doesn’t want any more of it now.

Exactly. It goes neatly with the, “I’m not sure I have any lies left within me,” from later in the season. He’s done. So done, so tired, at that point where any kind of bullshit feels like a betrayal, because let’s face it, that’s exactly what just got Miranda killed – Peter Ashe’s lies, and I think he’s mentally lumping Silver in the same category with Ashe until he tells him the damn truth for a change.

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