I’m seeing aus where James leaves Thomas post-series to get with Silver who then dumps Madi for him & like…. not in my house you absolute demons ,,., Captain Flint didn’t die for this
someone: talks to me in a way that seems the teeniest bit off, hardly noticeably different than their norm
me: lies down in the shower sadly, wondering where i went wrong in this friendship
I would argue that the importance and arc of Charles Vane’s role as a martyr for the cause has it’s roots, not in his actual death in 3×09, but at Flint’s trial in 2×10.
Flint’s trial is when we see the beginning of Charles Vane the Freedom Fighter, when he piggy backs off of Flint’s earlier statement:
I regret ever coming to this place with the assumption that reconciliation could be found, that reason could be a bridge between us. Everyone is a monster to someone. Since you are so convinced that I am yours, I will be it.
(2×10)
But Vane argues something different. He draws a line between the people and their rulers:
These men convinced you that they speak for you. The power you’ve given them is used in your interests. That the prisoner before you is your enemy, and they your friends. For those of you who live to see tomorrow, know that you had a choice to see the truth and you let yourselves be convinced otherwise.
(2×10)
He states that the rulers are the enemy of the people. They are the ones who have stolen and manipulated and become corrupt. That they are the ones who are the villains. But they could only do this because the people gave them the power to do so.
And in this moment, we see the birth of Charles Vane the Freedom Fighter. A act that ultimately culminates in Vane’s own death scene, where he takes what he comments on here, the power of the people, and propels it into action.
This is foreshadowed by his conversation with the pastor, when the Pastor asks if he would like to repent or confess anything before the Lord and Vane refuses. But more than that, he is the opposite of everything the Pastor says he will be. He isn’t frightened, or overwhelmed. He is calm and clear headed, and we see this in their conversation:
“In this moment, you have the opportunity to enter into that moment with a clear conscious. I can help you do that. To repent.”
“I have nothing to repent for, with you.”
[…]
Whatever remorse I do or do not have is my own. That I choose not to share it with you, says more about you than it does me.”
“Me? I am a shepherd. Sent to help you find a path to God’s forgiveness.”
“A shepherd? You are the sheep.”
(3×09)
It is telling, because it becomes clear that Vane has no regrets about what he has done. He knows that he is going to die, yet he is completely calm. He absolutely solid in his beliefs and knows he is doing the right thing. His voice remains steady, and his body is still as he is driven to the gallows. The sounds of the crows screaming and jeering are muffled, almost mute, then we have the speech given my the crier:
When our Lord Governor arrived here, he promised you things. Order, prosperity. […] Men who are not men at all, but beasts governed by base instinct, incapable of anything but the most primal behaviors. A constant threat to every decent, God-fearing citizen among us. As long as those men roam free, strife will endure, fear will abound, and progress will elude us. Today marks the silencing of the most disruptive of those voices, and a step toward the return of civilization in Nassau. But we must always remember, however strong the need for the removal of these traitors, these relics of a more savage age, there is no relish in this moment. But there is righteousness. […] And that God’s Will will be done again in Nassau!
All this is is a whole bunch of pathos, really. The Governor has given good things, “order and prosperity”, to the good people, “the decent and God-fearing citizens”. He then uses strong, animalistic language to describe the pirates and Vane. He paints them as good and bad and no in between.
But this is the exact opposite of what we see from the pirates.
Billy has organized a solid, sensible plan to rescue Vane that relies on language and not violence. No one is going to get hurt, no one is going to die. Vane is calm and composed in the face of the crowds frenzy. He is quiet, waiting for his chance to speak.
And when he catches Billy’s eye, he shakes his head. He does so calmly, and Billy stops. And as the noose goes around Vane’s head he realizes that Vane wants to die. So he calls off his men.
And Vane stands there, head up and shoulders relaxed. And he speaks:
These men who brought me here today, didn’t do it because they fear me. They brought me here because they fear you.
And the crows goes silent. He doesn’t raise his voice, doesn’t shout or scream. He simply speaks. And they are so surprised by his statement that they are struck quiet. Because he isn’t making this about himself. He is making it about them. He is handing the power and punishment back to them, saying this is yours.
Because they know my voice, a voice that refuses to be enslaved, once lived in you. And may yet still.
He is reminding them that they are on the same side. That he is one of them, and that he knows they still feel the way he does. That that fight is still in them.
They brought me here today to show you death, and use it to frighten you into ignoring that voice.
He is telling them, reminding them, that they are being controlled by the Governor and his men, because they are frightened of the people. And Vane reminds the people why:
But know this: we are many, they are few. To fear death is a choice. And they can’t hang us all.
He reminds them of the power of the people, how they hold all the power, and there isn’t anything the government can do about that. But then he proves it!
He turns to the hangman, says get on with it motherfucker, and then walks off the edge of the cart of his own volition. And when he does this, when he hangs himself, when he looks Eleanor and the officials in the eye as he does it?
He takes all the power away from the Governor’s men.
He chooses to die. It’s an active choice, and the crowd sees that. He walks off the cart, he shakes his head at Billy, he makes his peace with his decisions. He doesn’t tremble or cower before the crowd or the soldiers. He doesn’t plead or beg or make it about him. He doesn’t fight back. He takes control of his end. He uses it to make a final statement to the people, reminding them of their power.
And what do the people do?
They don’t make a sound. They don’t cheer or holler or celebrate. They don’t throw rotten food at him. They look horrified and upset. They turn away from his swinging body. They cry. They shake their heads. They look towards the soldiers and officials and there is bitterness and disquiet in their eyes.
And just like that, the resistance in Nassau is now underway.
Because that’s what it was all about, that’s what Billy sees when he says, look at them. The power of the people. The power of the people to control their government and to control themselves. That’s what Vane was counting on, what Thomas Hamilton was counting on, what Flint was counting on. What Nassau is ultimately a symbol of.
STEPHENS: The thing about Flint is that he’s playing out his own psycho-drama on a massive canvas. It’s motivated not by altruistic reasons of wanting to emancipate all these people. It’s really that he wants revenge on England for doing what it did to him.
Okay, so here’s the thing: I actually think the reasons why Flint is fighting the war he’s fighting are complex and interesting and worth discussing. And yes, I value Toby Stephens’ insights into Flint a lot, but I’m also not willing to take them as The Gospel.
So here’s the other thing: revenge and fighting oppression are not necessarily mutually exclusive, and for Flint, it’s even more complex, because for him, a battle against oppression by definition cannot be a fight for altruistic reasons. He’s one of the people who’s oppressed, so if he’s fighting England, he is, in part, fighting for himself. The same is true for the maroons. They may not be fighting out of spite or revenge like Flint, but they are also not fighting for altruistic reasons: they are fighting for the very, very selfish reasons of not wanting to be fucking enslaved.
Yes, he wants revenge on England for what it did to him. But the form he wants that revenge to take is by making the world that Thomas Hamilton wanted. Thomas Hamilton wanted to “rethink systemic things” and make the new world, well, a new opportunity. England took that from them and “killed” Thomas, so Flint’s act of revenge is to do the things that England killed Thomas for. As a friend of mine said (who I am not mentioning here, because she does not want to get involved in this and have people showing up calling her posts ridiculous):
So from a purely narrative standpoint, it is vitally important that James proceeds to do everything in his power to achieve the greatest upset to the status quo that he possibly can.
And, honestly, I think it’s telling that Flint wasn’t always going to fight an outright war. He sailed to Charlestown. He was willing to go on trial, to go to England, to tell his story, and to be branded a monster to make Thomas Hamilton’s dream a vision. He wanted to upset the status quo, even at the cost of his own life. But then Miranda died, and his rage was rekindled, and he went to war.
And yes, he is indeed motivated by rage in that war. But, funnily enough, rage can be a great motivator for changing things. Oppressed people who fight oppression are, shockingly, full of rage. (I wonder why…) Fighting oppression is complicated and it’s not done by pure morally upright people with no investment in the outcome for altruistic reasons because it’s the “right thing to do.” It’s done by angry people who suffer from the system and want to change it. That’s how it fucking works.
And yes, we can have a conversation about his methods and how effective they were. We can have a conversation about the fact that he didn’t think he would even be around to see this new world that he was making. But Flint wasn’t just trying to burn everything down to the ground for kicks. Flint was trying to burn the system of civilization to the ground so that something better could be built from it, and he did it very largely out of rage an anger and I for one don’t think that makes it somehow any less. And, again, I would note that he was allied with Madi and the Maroons, who had a very valid stake in this fight that wasn’t just rage or revenge, and who were more than happy to fight this war alongside him. Who saw this war as a valid fight that needed to be fought (and I think it would be doing Madi a disservice, as a character, to suggest that she was naive in trusting Flint and allying herself with him).
And one last thought: the idea that if you’re angry and full of rage and the desire for revenge, your fight against oppression becomes somehow invalid is really, really harmful. If you’ve been systemically oppressed and hurt and vilified and hunted down, you’re going to be pissed. That is normal and valid, and being nice and “not fighting hate with hate” is not a thing that works.
I saw a post today about how “omg think about how Flint and Silver used to be ENEMIES and then Flint TRUSTED him enough to tell him his BIGGEST SECRET about being gay and this is the 18th CENTURY where that’s like HUGE and also so private and personal and just the TRUST”
and I’m like
Yeah, and then
a. Silver used that information against Flint to get what he wanted and betrayed him
b. in the same scene, Silver pretty much told Flint it was his fault what happened to Thomas and Miranda
c. historically, pirates gave a lot less of a shit about being gay than the rest of the British Empire but that’s not really mentioned much in canon
what i say: i am writing, it’s great
what i really mean: please let me scream into the void for at least three minutes because i love writing and the feeling of making up a story and characters and exciting scenes but it is also so hard, i have to think of other scenes which make up a plot and then actually write those and sometimes i don’t know what should happen but i don’t want to start writing without at least an idea because then i’ll just get stuck and hate my writing please help me, give me a void to shout to
Thank you for realistic fighting scenes that end in ridiculous all-out brawls
Thank you for relationships with great dynamics that don’t always fit into neat boxes
Thank you for respecting the source material
Thank you for the cursing, violent, horny, irreverent pirates
Thank you to the cast. Everyone was flawless
Thank you for the special and visual effects
Thank you for the overarching themes
Thank you for the gratuitous shirtless Charles Vane
Thank you for John Silver and Madi’s love story
Thank you for all those great shots and the gorgeous cinematography
Thank you for a complete story that leaves just enough to the imagination
Thank you for giving us Captain Flint and Long John Silver
Thank you for those rad ship battles where everyone (but mostly Flint) comes up with crazy ideas
Thank you for your portrayal of Thomas and James’ love story
Thank you for Nassau (the brothel looks great)
Thank you for the jokes and lighter moments
Thank you for being so enthusiastic about your fans and working so hard to make this show even better with each passing episode, for giving us incredible seasons finales, and a show that changed me as a person.
Sorry for ranting but it’s just so goddamn funny that all the pirates thought Flint stayed at an evil witch’s house when in reality all that him and Miranda were doing was drink a lot of tea, read books and work the garden. I mean, that’s a life goal.