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Thanks for the reply about the Queen I have no problem with Queen’s choice of ending the war, my problem is that silver eliminating flint and the chachet from the equation did not allow a fair choice. It is a subtle way of making sure the preferred choice,his choice.-_-

You won’t hear any arguments about that here, Anon. You may have noticed that I’m not Silver’s biggest fan – or any kind of fan of his at all, really =P

I have a doubt about Silver and the cache, it seems jack knows that Flint and silver had the cache because at the camp they told him they had taken it to swap it with madi do you think the queen knew it and she agree with silver?

I think the Queen wasn’t entirely averse to the end of the war, but I doubt she helped Silver engineer it. She had a lot to consider – an entire people – and I think she understood that for their sake, the treaty was probably the best option. I doubt she’d have so severely undercut her own daughter, though – family is visibly very important to both her and Madi and I think she handled the situation she was given rather than having an active hand in creating it.

Also, in birdview shot at the end we see that Oglethorpe and two guards have left. If the money were paid for Thomas’ release, they would still be there waiting to escort them out. Besides, Silver says “men who enter these gates never leave them”. That does not scream “we paid for Thomas’ release, Flint only entered to take him back”. *same anon*

Agreed, although I’m reasonably certain that whatever Silver’s told himself, the only reason Flint allowed himself to be led through those gates was to find out for himself if Thomas was alive. He wouldn’t have taken the chance of not finding out – not about that. Look at the look on his face as they take him out of the shackles – that’s not meek compliance of any kind, that’s a man that thinks it’s cute they think they can control him. 

I don’t understand the notion that the money we saw being paid were for Thomas’ release and that Flint was escorted in chains so he could see with his own eyes that Thomas is alive. It doesn’t make any sense. They didn’t have to bring him inside, they could’ve paid for Thomas’ release while Flint waited outside the gates. It was money paid for Flint’s imprisonment. The looks Morgan and the guard exchanged were like “we brought a prisoner”.

Yeah – I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade or claim that’s not a valid interpretation, just I can’t put the same conviction that he was in fact being imprisoned there out of my head either. And it’s not that I think that any place would actually succeed in keeping him there – if James Flint wants to leave, he’s leaving with Thomas probably helping him mastermind the escape plan, but they shouldn’t have to fight for their freedom. Like you, though, I can’t shake the suspicion that they’re going to have to (although I’m still grateful that they’re both alive and that we’re left with a story to be told rather than James dead and Thomas either dead or alive but never to see James again. I approve of the fact that I can write fic after fic where they get the hell out of there and they’re all canon compliant in that respect). 

Flint saves Madi AND keeps the cache AND captures Woodes Rogers. In return he gets: at best an imprisoment with his bf, at worst a bullet. Thanks, Silver. You get to live with your wife in the open, Flint gets to live with his bf in the barracks. Madi gets to serve beer to sad ex-pirates, you get to feel sorry for yourself. But it was totally worth it, right? A life like that is totally better than fighting and dying for what you believe in? So much more dignified? Keep telling yourself that.

I couldn’t agree more, Anon. Seriously, Silver? That’s how you thank the man that’s nearly killed himself on your behalf? Thanks for everything, James – only I don’t think you’ve lost enough, say goodbye to your freedom, hope you like your prison barracks (and oh by the way, Thomas, hope you like them too despite having never done anything to deserve getting locked away from the world, here’s your husband back k thx bye)? That’s how you treat the woman you say you love? Love you honey, hope you like how I treated you and your people both, as if you were naughty children who didn’t have the right to make decisions for yourselves. I adore you, truly, that’s why I took your best friend and essentially sold him. Serve the beer? 

No. Fuck him, frankly. I have so many fics that I’m working on to fix this, because dear gods no. I refuse to leave it at James and Thomas being imprisoned together and Madi being forced to the sidelines, living with the man who did this to her and to Flint. Fuck that.

I loved Madi and Flint Madi relationship so much. There was so much respect between them Madi was the only person ever thanked Flint. It was the Flint plan that saved Madi in the 4×10.I do not think Jack and Silver would have been able to beat Rogers without him.But the merits of Flint are never recognized.

Agreed, Anon! Flint does so much and you’re right – there’s a tendency from the other characters to either take Flint’s skills for granted or damn them to hell until they need him and then suddenly it’s “oh, Flint will figure out how to handle this.” (i.e. the harbor defense of Nassau in Season 3) Mind you, the couple of times people try to take the reins and deal with things themselves instead of listening to Flint, things go… badly. Which is part of why we don’t have Vane around by the end of Season 4 (partly. Part of that was his choice and I won’t deny that to him). The moral of the story is that everyone should just listen to Flint instead of arguing with him all the time and then maybe try being a little nicer since he generally knows what he’s doing. 

I’ve read a meta about BS finale, the author thinks that Flint’s revolution failed because Flint chose Thomas .I’m not sure to have watched the same show. What do you think? thanks

To say that Flint chose Thomas is to imply that a choice was offered, when from where I’m sitting, a threat was issued. The “choice” was Thomas and enslavement/imprisonment or death, and when Flint evidently chose death (remember Silver saying that it took great effort to corral him?) even that was denied him (not that I’m not glad about that at least). Just – Silver’s actions were gross no matter how you look at it, and it’s not that Flint made a choice to end his revolution, it’s that that choice was made for him. In what way does being dragged North in chains resemble a choice having been made?